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A Response to:
Context: This text is a continuation of the realtime realspace and online virtual space conversations around papers pulled from the net. Imagomoo went down early in the conversation and so this dialogue picks up somewhere in the middle of the discussion. We had one person online for the duration of the meeting.
Meta_Guest says, getting the live video link would make this more interesting especially if you could splice in imagery and video footage it certainly would..the eye contact and the gestures of different people is fascinating...it is hard to get a sense of who isn't speaking when Brunellesci invented the camera obscura, he didn't do the cloud cos you couldn'tdo clouds in perspective..it was an architectural solution, not a total solution
let's take alex's paintings for example, lets move through it ...perhaps its desirable to move through it...that notion of space might be something artists are working with. but artists are dealing with space from all perspectives (excuse the pun) man is going towards a dead end, the reduction to one dimensions - Marcuse's one dimensional man the artist becomes alienated because he or she is not able to challenge the power of conglomerations is there a way of establishing resistance? how do we resist it and if jeff is right in suggesting we go back to producing, what do we produce?" we go back to materiality.. that seems a very narrow view of art practice Meta_Guest has arrived. Meta_Guest says, whoops I dropped out welcome back dave, what happened to you? we all have the propensity to drop out Meta_Guest says, "tried to cut and paste in but lost touch the discussion is now turning to cars and the organization of technology and ikea" you should go to ikea there is a whole section for home office Meta_Guest says, ikea is interesting cos every store is identical, we go to ikea to eat swedish food so we feel at home in england! when they've got you using your laptop at the beach, its still work.. .the invasion of private space you have choice. i wouldn't take my laptop to the beach. i go there to swim Meta_Guest says, "they'll be waterproof next that's the circularity of postmodernism dave....shit, by the time i get this down, the conversation has moved on Meta_Guest says, "i've never heard of a shark eating a computer so it will be a safety item for cottesloe beach alex wants different sorts of papers, but i missed them in the stampe of conversation Meta_Guest says, "its ok i'm off on a beach-shark computer trip
Part II - Preview of Paul Thomas' slides... Paul is interested in the in between of buildings and the small joints where they have to be separate and there have to be joins also the small grasses and weeds that grow between cracks Meta_Guest says, "is that joins or johns?" and the pauses between what is it that makes these so specific...between...where they don't think what yes, where they don't think...the pauses are the inferences between, the spaces that allow meaning to exist you're creating paintings paul Meta_Guest says, " in London those places are called homes" we have so much space it is a wasteland" "Meta_Guest says, "so architects are designing pavements you can't sleep on" part of the social engineering, one doesn't want them visible..that's how suburbs are so convenient." the gaps, many gaps between ...wants to put them into director and zoom in so one can control one's movement in and around"
>Meta_Guest says, "might make good video game. what about rachel whitereads >casting those spaces is there a connection" typical that you would want 'art' appropriated for the sake of consum ption" elaborate?" >Meta_Guest says, "i consume theefore i am spam" i'm not interested in making art, but i want to talk about the signif icance of them >Meta_Guest says, "whitereads work really draws attention to space by >negating it" i want sound and text to go together yeah, i agree...they are silent on this profundity i want to explore how these spaces signify >Meta_Guest says, " it is interesting that her (Rachel Whiteread ie) work >has a real metaphorical aspect, they are not merely formal concerns >Meta_Guest says, "is paul at the helm now, i detect a shift big lag time spaces, spaces that have been left..and left undone..what happens between the buildings yes and no, paul is talking about the work and so in a way it is his voice coming through that's it >"Meta_Guest says, " is the interest in spaces merely a formal concern or >are ther e socail significances are you going to talk to architects? >Meta_Guest says, "maybe architects don't go in those spaces In Europe the cracks area critical for allowing expansion and contrac tion due to changing temperature connections the desire to have your own space, no adjoining walls >Meta_Guest says, " hereit is about utilising down down real estate >Meta_Guest says, " every sqare inch counts! it has started to here, but i don't think this has arisen as an issue the issue of the framework of the city and where one stop s and another starts, then its not the same story - if its about boundaries, tha t is another story than the story of gaps. the reality of things, to do with materiality is something you can't think about..it is only when you get to the stuff of it . i do tend to go in with a certain aesthetic and that does affect what gets framed." you need to make a choice, you can't sit on the fence" rina is looking at internal spaces and have gone through the same struggles" it gives pleasure" is there a context to talk about terminus?
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